OVERALL SUMMARY

Action Items

• Listeners should check out Natalie’s podcast Mystical Movement to learn more about her perspective on creativity and expression as it relates to the body, flow states, balance, burnout, and her techniques for addressing these issues.
• Natalie agreed to summarize her personal story in 1 minute for Matt
• Natalie provided more context about her 1000 Days of Movement project and how it fit into what she’s currently doing.

Creativity, self-expression, and healing with a multifaceted guest.

• Natalie Tischler shares insights on creativity, flow, balance, and well-being.
• She shares personal growth journey through self-exploration, spirituality, and creative expression.

Wellness vs well-being and their societal implications.

• Natalie reflects on the power of everyday creativity and the importance of combining personal training with dance and dance therapy.
• Natalie shares how the pandemic inspired the evolution of their coaching program, “Month of Movement,” which focuses on using the elements to find authentic creativity rooted in personal sovereignty and willpower.
• She distinguishes between wellness and well-being, explaining that wellness has a more tangible, trackable connotation, while well-being is more expansive and encompasses creativity, love, joy, and other intangible aspects of health.
• She discusses how the World Health Organization uses the term well-being to define health, and how this concept is evolving in modern society, particularly in relationships and personal growth.

Emotional health, stability, and power through personal growth.

• Natalie laughs at the absurdity of complaining about petty problems, recognizing the privilege and emotional health involved.
• She invites emotions to the table to address the root cause of frustration, rather than just laughing it off or getting upset.
• She emphasizes the importance of stability before strengthening muscles for optimal performance.
• Stability is key for beginners, as it helps correct muscle imbalances and strengthen the right patterns for power and performance.

The importance of repetition and dedication in personal growth and creativity.

• Matt Stagliano emphasizes importance of repetition in creativity and personal growth.
• Resistance to putting in effort and reps is common, especially at the beginning and plateau stages.
• Natalie discusses the concept of “plateau” in mastery, describing how progress can be slow and inconsistent.
• Natalie emphasizes the importance of choice and agency in shaping one’s life and future.

Journaling and mindset, focusing on past, present, and future.

• Matt Stagliano and Natalie discuss journaling techniques for aligning present and future selves.
• Natalie reflects on past experiences and their impact on present and future actions.

Cultivating self-awareness and flow state through journaling and creative work.

• Matt Stagliano reflects on the importance of recognizing the interconnectedness of past, present, and future thoughts, and the power of giving oneself grace when reviewing older journals.
• Natalie agrees, highlighting the creative potential of reframing past experiences and making new choices in the present moment.
• Matt Stagliano reflects on his personal growth, realizing he’s no longer afraid of things he once thought were scary.
• He discusses the state of flow, where creativity and skill-building intersect, and how it can be achieved more often through repetition and practice.

Flow state, creativity, and the importance of healing for entering it.

• Matt and Natalie discuss the concept of flow and how it relates to creativity, with Matt sharing his experiences of being in the moment and producing with abandon without expectation of outcome.
• Natalie discusses the concept of “I” and “myself” in relation to mindset and learning.
• She argues that the “myself” is the part that actually does the learning, not just the “I” that thinks about it.
• She reflects on unlearning control and embracing abandon in creative processes.

Burnout, self-awareness, and managing energy.

• Matt Stagliano shares his journey from survival mentality to burnout and the realization that control is the root cause of his issues.
• Matt recognizes early symptoms of burnout, such as decreased motivation and interest in work and personal life.
• Natalie deals with burnout differently now, using a stronger foundation to mitigate its effects.
• Natalie reflects on burnout, realizing it’s not about being busy but balancing active and passive forces.
• Natalie finds insight in Joan Didion’s quote and Zeno’s theory of incompleteness, which help with burnout awareness.

Balance, energy, and growth, with a focus on reframing perspectives and finding balance through curiosity and creativity.

• Matt Stagliano reflects on balance, finding it through polarity of energies.
• Natalie discusses constructive imbalance and the importance of receiving energy.
• Matt and Natalie discuss the importance of changing one’s perspective and beliefs to achieve success and avoid burnout.
• Natalie shares how they have replaced motivation with curiosity and creativity, and now find joy in silence.

Finding quiet and peace amidst chaos through meditation and self-reflection.

• Matt reflects on finding quiet contentment amidst chaos, sharing experiences of silence and meditation.
• Natalie discusses the importance of heart-opening practices, emphasizing the need for authenticity and vulnerability.
• Natalie creates a quiet space for meditation by using a timer and yoga mat.
• Natalie discusses the “mystical movement show” and its three questions: what’s the story I’m telling myself, what do I do because of that story, and how do I feel doing or thinking that.
• Natalie emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and emotional connection to one’s heart through these questions, and suggests writing them down daily for personal growth.

Tarot cards and their symbolism, connecting to the self and the universe.

• Matt Stagliano ponders the depth of our thoughts and emotions.
• Natalie discusses Tarot’s Major Arcana as a system.
• The mind complex is explored through the Tarot’s 21 cards.
• Natalie discusses their podcast, the Mystical Movement Show, and its focus on creativity and personal growth.
• Natalie invites listeners to check out their podcast on Spotify, Apple, or YouTube, and to follow them on Instagram for more information.